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On the etymology of the hydronym Sestra

Alexander Akulov

In early recordings the river Sestra, which flows into Sestroretskii Razliv, is mentioned in the form of Sestreya which originated from Finnish Siestar-oja. This hydronym has neither Balto-Finnic nor Slavic etymology. The Sestra is a relatively large river on the Karelian Isthmus, and at least 9 Neolithic sites were discovered near its mouth. The main summer activity of the Neolithic people who lived in the region was fishing, and those people definitely could consider the mouth zone of Sestra as a good location for fishing. Those people spoke a language that was a relative of the Yeniseian family: sies of siestar correlates with Yeniseian ses “river”, tar correlates with Ket tɯl and Yugh tar “lower reaches of the river”. Thus, sies-tar/ses-tar means “lower reaches of the river”, this name refers not to the whole river, but to the part that was most important for the Neolithic people.

Keywords: Karelian Isthmus; Sestra river; hydronymy; etymology; Neolithic period; Paja Ul Deˀŋ

Владимир:

--- Quote from: I. G. on 26 December 2022, 23:05:42 ---Those people spoke a language that was a relative of the Yeniseian family: sies of siestar correlates with Yeniseian ses “river”, tar correlates with Ket tɯl and Yugh tar “lower reaches of the river”. Thus, sies-tar/ses-tar means “lower reaches of the river”, this name refers not to the whole river, but to the part that was most important for the Neolithic people.

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Замечательно! Yeniseian ses “river”, tar correlates with Ket tɯl and Yugh tar “lower reaches of the river” звучит как славянский Х, болгарский Y¹ и русский Y².


--- Quote from: I. G. on 26 December 2022, 23:05:42 ---Paja Ul Deˀŋ

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Это Карельский Перешеек на кетском? :)

I. G.:

--- Quote from: Владимир on 26 December 2022, 23:18:58 ---Замечательно! Yeniseian ses “river”, tar correlates with Ket tɯl and Yugh tar “lower reaches of the river” звучит как славянский Х, болгарский Y¹ и русский Y².

Это Карельский Перешеек на кетском? :)

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Вата клочковая!
Paja Ul Deˀŋ [пАджа уль дэнг] означает "Люди Большой Воды" на реконструированном языке неолитических людей, живших по берегам Литоринового моря и Ладожского озера. Есть основания утверждать, что эти люди не говорили ни на индоевропейских ни на уральских языках, а говорили на языке/языках, который был связующим звеном между енисейскими языками с одной стороны и абхазо-адыгскими языками, нахско-дагестанскими и хаттским языком с другой стороны.

Владимир:
Время Литоринового моря — это же средний голоцен  :uo:
Однако Кэп далеко продвинулся в реконструкциях.

I. G.:
Учись, студент!

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